Elizabeth and Amy vs. “The Mayor”

I hear her saying it, but I’m not convinced “experience” makes all that much difference anymore. In last night’s debate, our senator, Amy Klobuchar, sunk her teeth into “Mayor” Pete Buttigieg, arguing in so many words that he hasn’t been around the Washington political circus long enough to be as credible as she is.

Amy, who is “from the Midwest” in case you haven’t heard her say it a couple thousand times, seems to believe this is an effective diminishing attack on the very young “mayor”. (She pushed the “mayor” business often enough to let you know she doesn’t think running a city of 120,000 compares well to representing a state of 5,000,000.)

But really? Experience? After Barack Obama in 2008 and Donald Trump in 2016? In what world is experience still a primary criteria for the White House?

In 2008 John McCain was clearly the more “experienced” candidate. But raw charisma withstanding, astute voters didn’t have a hard time deciding whose fundamental judgment they found more appealing/reassuring. McCain’s long DC experience was pock-marked by dozens of examples of truly suspect judgment on key issues. In his case “experience” translated to “more of the same FUBAR.”

Klobuchar isn’t John McCain. But as hard-working and as tough a competitor as she’s proving to be on the campaign trail, I still have no sense that she has the quality of judgment to play the game as it has been designed and is being played by the likes of Mitch McConnell, Bill Barr, the Federalist Society and their vast network of very wealthy, influential benefactors.

At this point I can’t say for sure if Buttegieg does either. But he continues to display a depth and quality of thinking and judgment that suggests he understands pretty damn well how the country actually operates and what to do — and not do — to get where you have to be to make some changes.

The past few weeks — and again last night — “Mayor” Pete has been taking shots from the progressive wing for his coziness with … well, really rich progressives. This business about his fund-raiser in a California “wine cave” is bad optics in the minds of those applying the kind of sack cloth and ashes standard to progressive politics. But besides the (mild) hypocrisy of Elizabeth Warren poking him for snuggling with billionaires, he isn’t the one demonstrating bad judgment by accusing his rivals of something they all have done to one degree or another. (Bernie less than others.)

Despite their obvious tenacity, Warren and Klobuchar, both of whom are currently trailing the inexperienced “mayor” in Iowa, haven’t demonstrated to me at least that they have the fully-thought out perspective on American politics 2020-style. At least not as well thought out as, “a gay dude from Mike Pence’s Indiana,” to quote the “mayor”.

Huffington Post progressives and others seem to see Buttigieg as more somber and studious version of Bill Clinton. Another (white, though not straight male) too comfortable in schmooze mode with the tycoon class, and therefore less likely to ram through in his first 100 days all the major reforms the country needs.

They could be right. But what that ignores is that Clinton, for all his slickness, canoodling and all the dry tinder he laid at the feet of the rabid dogs of talk radio Republicans, produced indisputable improvements for women, the middle-class, science and international relations. (I’m open to the debate over welfare reform.)

Point being, as a “middle-laner” rightfully skeptical of promising voters all sorts of dreamy and wonderful things that have zero-to-no chance of so much as a hearing in a Republican Senate, Buttigieg is showing better judgment — certainly of the real world realities of 2020 America — than Bernie and Warren.

As for fellow “middle-laner” Klobuchar’s accusation that the “mayor” doesn’t have sufficient experience, those of us here in Minnesota, (which is in “the midwest” as you might know), are well aware that after 13 years as a solid, workman-like Senator, Klobuchar’s judgment has not produced the reputation of being an acknowledged leader on any of the biggest issues of our era.

The difference between listening to Buttigieg and Klobuchar talk about the country’s foundational problems is this: with Buttigieg you’re listening to someone who has impressively cross-referenced the demographics, the science and the raw vagaries of human nature and is making unique, well-considered and strategic distinctions between noble aspiration and pragmatism.

There’s an inspirational factor there.

While with Klobuchar, the sense is of someone with plenty of battle-tested experience, but whose judgment is regularly deferring to standard political positioning and protection.

10 thoughts on “Elizabeth and Amy vs. “The Mayor”

    • I want a woman president. She is arriving much too late in my opinion so I’m prediposed to Amy and Eliz and yet, it is Pete who has my vote. From the moment I first heard him, I was mesmerized and went for my checkbook and I have not heard a false word from him still. For me, he is an exceptional brilliant, innate talent the likes of which I have never seen. After listening to hours of his interviews and town halls, I am absolutely sure he can handle the presidency and inspire us out of the abbyss.

    • Pete too can be accused of tactical positioning to win. But good lord, that’s politics. Right now it’s all name recognition as far as I can tell. The coming series of winnowed debates and a win or close second in Iowa annd New Hampshire will make people take the “mayor” more seriously … which he is prepared for them to do.

  1. Interesting. I have much the same reaction to Mayor Pete and Sen. Amy as you (Please don’t tell me about your grandpa or father again, Senator), but I am also worried that I am falling prey to gender issues. I don’t know.

  2. Yes, I think you’ve put your finger on why Buttigieg inches higher whenever people actually listen to him. I’m not a “center laner,” more of a leftist, but Buttigieg seems to have thought through exactly WHY the Republicans have gotten so many people to vote for the people leftists decry, and much more than Warren or Sanders seems to have a plan for persuading people to change.

  3. Fantastic analysis. Pete has been doing plenty of “behinds the scenes” work beyond the day to day job in SB, from his position in the Truman Security Project to his leadership in the US Council of Mayors, chairing the committee on Automation. I took issue with Amy’s attack during the debate. By the end of her rant, she seemed to be seething IMO. (says this feminist.) Within the hour, Pete was calmly defending the women candidates for asking forgiveness.

  4. I think comparing kinds of experience is fair game. I disagree with Amy’s characterization of her experience as better than Pete’s but I defend her right to express her opinion about the comparison. The case of Liz and the “wine cave” issue is orders of magnitude different. Liz made up lies about that event and tried to tack an “elitist” label on Pete. That was an outright smear attack. It was slimy and worthy of Donald Trump. One interesting argument that I have been seeing is that it is perhaps better to take from the rich to campaign for the poor. It’s a bit of Robin Hood kind of politics.

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